There were 28 passengers and three crew members on board CommutAir flight 4933 flying from Newark to Presque Isle, the company said. The doomed 747 began flying in 1971. Of the 31 passengers and crew onboard, two passengers and 1 crewmember received minor injuries. The report determined the probable causes of this accident to be the flight crews decision, due to confirmation bias, to continue the descent below the decision altitude when the runway had not been positively identified. Biggest teller? This information is not presented as the Flight Safety Foundation or the Aviation Safety Networks opinion as to the cause of the accident. The broadcast contained a halftime report of game 6 of an NBA playoff series between Golden State and Memphis. Did anyone else see that they got the shaker during the first missed, and set off the EGPWS? Rick Daigle said from the airport via an interview using Facebook messenger that passengers realized there was a problem even before the plane hit the runway. Theyre famous here too! We use cookies to ensure you get the best experience on our site. The aircraft touched down at 11:29EST and came to rest in a snow-covered grassy area between the runway and a parallel taxiway. [1]:78, The aircraft ascended from a minimum altitude of 703ft (214m) mean sea level (MSL) [169ft (52m) above ground level (AGL)] to around 1,000ft (300m) MSL. On the second attempt, the pilot landed off the runway between runway 1 and a parallel taxiway. At an Appropriations hearing in July 2019, The report determined the probable causes of this accident to be, The first officers fatigue, which exacerbated his confirmation bias, and. [1][2], The aircraft was a 14-year-old Embraer EMB-145XR first delivered to ExpressJet in October 2004, for Continental Express. Publicado hace 1 segundo. Crew missed first approach bc something didnt look right when they went visual, then apparently just sorta yolod it on the second attempt and had some severe confirmation bias when looking at what they thought were the runway/lights. The flight was operated by CommutAir under the United Express brand. On March 4, 2019, a CommutAir flight suffered a runway excursion at Presque Isle International Airport. The "issues" she speaks of was that she lied about hours and qualifications and it went beyond that but I can't remember the specifics. During a postaccident interview, the first officer stated that, when he transitioned from flight instruments to the outside during the second approach, he again saw white on white and blowing snow. [1]:34, The NTSB commented on the captain's flight training record. JavaScript is disabled. The first officer then spotted a tower near the aircraft's position, and realizing that the aircraft was not aligned properly with the runway, he initiated a missed approach. The aircraft that arrived around 11:30 a.m. Monday also sustained unspecified damage and is remaining in place until investigators with the Federal Aviation Administration can assess the incident, Smith said. [5] Five people[5] were taken to the hospital including the first officer and two passengers who received minor injuries from the accident. [7], The NTSB identified the first officer's lack of sleep as a contributing factor. At 11:01EST, Boston Air Route Traffic Control Center cleared the aircraft to land on runway 1 at Presque Isle, and the pilots initiated an instrument landing system (ILS) approach. Many were hired right after failures. We give them kids stuff. The first impact was hard and violent.. 3.4. Landing under that set of circumstances is a fools errand. The NTSB also determined that the first officer was fatigued, which contributed to his confirmation bias; that the captain had demonstrated "poor judgment and decision-making" in instructing the first officer to continue the approach although he did not have the runway in sight; and that the ILS localizer was out of tolerance by about 200ft (61m) to the right, a condition that had been noticed during six previous CommutAir flights, including by the accident first officer, but had not been properly reported to the FAA. 2017. On Jul 8th 2022 the NTSB released their factual report reporting amongst other details: On March 2, 2019 (2 days before the accident), the flight crew of . I would prefer to add accidents in circumstances similar to this one: botched instrument approaches resulting in the aircraft touching down somewhere other than the intended landing runway. Contributing to the accident was also the first officers fatigue, which exacerbated his confirmation bias and the failure of at least six pilots who had observed the localizer misalignment to report it to the company and air traffic before the accident. What should the crew have done to avoid the runway excursion and hard landing? The carrier that won the hunger games contract wars of 2020. Gotta wonder how many more lives need to be lost as a result of airlines looking to fill seats in the cockpit, before they realize sex and skin color are not relevant to qualifications to fly airplanes! Ive seen interview flights of no more than 20 minutes lead to absolutely invaluable insight. Senator Susan Collins, the Ranking Member of the Transportation Appropriations Subcommittee, issued a statement on the release of the National Transportation Safety Boards (NTSB) final report on the missed runway incident at Presque Isle International Airport that occurred in March of 2019. I never had an issue, but she could be very abrasive, especially toward FAs. You had me till you brought up sex and skin Color. The benefits of subscriptionGet the news right onto your desktop when they happenPut the news on your website/in your newspaper. Flight status, tracking, and historical data for CommutAir 4933 (C54933/UCA4933) 17-Mar-2022 (KIAH-KLFT) including scheduled, estimated, and actual departure and arrival times. On Mar 21st 2019 the NTSB reported: "On March 4, 2019, at 1143 eastern standard time, CommutAir flight 4933, an Embraer EMB-145XR, N14171, d.b.a. [2] It came to rest with the left main landing gear assembly sheared off and wedged between the rear fuselage and the left engine. Left Virgin for "Paper work issues", never heard that reason before. Press J to jump to the feed. PRESQUE ISLE, Maine (WABI) A United Express flight had a rough landing at Presque Isle's airport Monday leaving a pilot and four passengers with minor injuries, that according to city officials. Pilots I know firsthand, who had massive training and proficiency issues, are now working for major carrierssome in heavy jets, others in the NB left seat. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I had no idea that snow could affect the localizer signal. Why has literally no information been put out by the NTSB? X File Under: <Fuel> Circulate To: General Manager Service Manager Parts Manager Service Advisors Technicians Body Shop Manager Fleet Repair X X X X SUBJECT: GROUP MODEL FUE 2017-2019MY Niro (DE HEV) NUMBER DATE 041 August 2019 TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN The flight was operating under the provisions of Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 121 as a regularly scheduled domestic passenger from Newark International Airport (KEWR), Newark, New Jersey, to KPQI. Fleet type match . The plane left Newark, New Jersey and landed in Presque Isle around 11:30 Monday morning. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Due to internet piracy we needed to close access to proxies. NTSB/AAR-17-02 - Collision with Terrain Promech Air, Inc. de Havilland DHC-3, N270PA; Ketchikan, Alaska; June 25, 2015. Rather scattered individual, always leaving something in the airplane, always some drama.Then she came back to C5 after whatever happened and having upgraded in 2015, I flew with her when she was rehired. Where is the NTSB Report on Commutair 4933? As a leader of the Transportation Appropriations Subcommittee, Senator Collins has consistently secured robust funding for the instrument landing system (ILS) that provides pilots with precision landing information in poor visibility. This accident occurred less than 2 weeks after the Atlas crash. Rick and Cassie Daigle, owners of Too Far North Fitness in Fort Kent, were on the flight returning from Columbus, Ohio, where Cassie Daigle was competing in a kettlebell event at the Arnold Sports Expo. On March 4, 2019, CommutAir flight 4933, operating the service for United Airlines onboard an Embraer EMB145XR, registration N14171, was attempting to land on runway 1 at Presque Isle International Airport (PQI) when it impacted terrain to the right of the runway. Couldnt find the original threads, but the docket is open. The flight departed from Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR) with 28 passengers and three crew members. Reports provide details about the accident, analysis of the factual data, conclusions and the probable cause of the accident, and the related safety recommendations. Its like we didnt learn from Colgan, except to keep the 1500 hr (which I dont think would have stopped the crash, but different topic for different day). An earlier approach had been aborted. The first officer was the pilot flying and the captain was the pilot monitoring. If he cant tell were the runway is what other skills is he lacking???? For more information, please see our What do you think about this accident? This community is for discussion among pilots, students, instructors and aviation There are pilots making it into airline cockpits that have had training failures at other airlines and they have been able to hide them from future employers. [1]:15, In a post crash interview, the first officer of the flight stated that when he transitioned from looking at his flight instruments to the outside, all he could see was "white on white". During the final approach, the pilots decided to do a go-around after they were unable to see the runway. Read recent air safety reports, incidents and news about Commutair. Just before our initial push, I became ill. No one should have to work under those conditions. The NTSB released their findings in July of 2022. commutair 4933 ntsb report. 189k members in the flying community. I do not see how PRD will help that kind of situation. Since Atlas 3591 and Colgan 3407 airlines are scrutinizing training failures a little closer. The agency said it will work closely with a federal government contractor . [1]:1314, Flight 4933 departed from Newark Liberty International Airport around 10:04Eastern Standard Time(EST) (14:04UTC). One pilot and three passengers were injured, and the aircraft was substantially damaged. that one.