The state police dropped him as a suspect. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. They are total bs. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Whats worse is that shes innocent. Prosecutors said the Prues planned the March 2012 crime: Patricia Prue's computer had been used to conduct online searches for "how to kidnap a girl," the Prues acquired a stun gun, and they bought a prepaid cellphone to call Jenkins to ask for help. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. She took out the woman who replaced her. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Although I would have liked it to be death! Why? Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. You murdered your girls," she said. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. He gave an audio interview to the Wrong Man investigators when they made a surprise visit to his house, but he declined to appear on camera. Mr. Said harbored his father, Yaser, inside an apartment in Bedford, Texas, where a maintenance worker spotted Yaser on Aug. 14, 2017. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? THE COPS SET HER UP. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Wow. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Its barely visible in the picture. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. She had money put aside. At that time he was living in Connecticut. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. Patricia had a knack for writing strong headlines, which won her first place in a 2012 national contest. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, Stop. They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. Feb 7, 2017 Patricia A. Giddings, seated beside Keeseville-based attorney Jacob Painter in Clinton County Court on Tuesday, spoke only to affirm she understood the proceedings. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. Not sure why anyone is defending her. Yaser had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014, according to CBS. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. Above, we have another whos totally clueless, has little or no knowledge of this case, but is happy to display his/her ignorance with a rant based on limited knowledge learned from biased documentaries who thinks that by using offensive and insulting language itll influence those who support Rorrer into changing their opinions. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. The womans whereabouts were relayed to law enforcement in Ross Township last year, Deputy Chief Brian Kohlhepp said. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Sorry not sorry. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? Cop defends accused. While Patricia does not qualify for medical parole, she can still file for executive clemency or compassionate release, which she has already done and which was met with more resistance from Gov. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. The defense argued that the 911 call is not clear and that Said was targeted by investigators because he is a Muslim. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. We've received your submission. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. Disagree with But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. It seems so, according to you. If Patricia drove it back from the murder scene after she shot Joann and then beat her to death, luminal would have lit up the interior. Weak wages. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. I really never thought of it again.. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Not normal folks obsessed ones do. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. she didnt need to . Owens said because of what Said did, she will never get to see her daughters grow up. Thats all for this post. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. Prue is currently serving a life sentence with the eventual opportunity for parole. She embraced spontaneity and diligence. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. Why not question some of this evidence? Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. "There is nothing I or anyone can say to make what you've been put through any easier," Patricia Prue said. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. . I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Or did they? Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. None. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. Is Dallas becoming unaffordable due to rising housing costs, inflation and stagnating pay? If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh-based NBC affiliate WPXI. Just saying. This is all BS.She did it. Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. "I don't have any mercy for that lady," Blasczyk said, referring to Patricia Prue. He jumped at the opportunity with the understanding that the emphasis would be on Lawrence Slaughter and not his sister. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. She said that she has no idea why her ex-husband killed her daughters. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? Justice is about uncovering the truth. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? Search it out and check for yourself. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. One on one? All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. 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His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today.